Liquid Mix FireWire Concepts and Multiple Device Connectivity

Isochronous vs. Asynchronous Firewire Data Transfer

The data traffic between FireWire devices and nodes is divided into isochronous and asynchronous transfers. Isochronous transfers provide guaranteed transmission opportunities at defined intervals. However, if a packet is not received successfully, it is not resent. In asynchronous transfers, the intervals between transmissions can vary, but data can be resent if it's missed. FireWire is one of very few interfaces that support both isochronous and asynchronous data transfer. It can reserve up to 80% of its bandwidth for one or more isochronous channels to support applications that require real-time data transmission.


Because the firewire bus is permitted to allocate up to 80% for isochronous data transfer, at least 20% is always available for asynchronous transfer. This is used for all normal computer type data transfers, because it guarantees data delivery. For example, firewire hard disks use asynchronous data transfer.

So, which type of firewire data transfer does Liquid Mix use?

Both! Asynchronous transfers are used for Liquid Mix bootup, initialisation and for reporting buttons and status back to host. Isochronous transfers are used for Liquid Mix audio streaming, because asynchronous does not guarantee a particular data rate.
To use isochronous bandwidth, every device on the bus has to allocate it before it uses it. If the allocation fails because some other devices on the bus got there first, Liquid Mix will show an error message. To reduce the chances of errors, it may be effective to reduce bandwidth requirement of firewire devices or remove them, or choose fewer channels on the Liquid Mix.

Multiple Firewire Busses

The Liquid Mix, like the TC PowerCore and SSL Duende, requires a substantial amount of bandwidth from the firewire bus, especially when it is used to its limit. For this reason, it is beneficial to connect additional firewire devices on a separate firewire bus. Apple Macs which have more than one standard firewire port (400MB/s and/or 800MB/s) are actually running them on the same firewire bus. On a PC, any ports on a single PCI card run on the same bus. In order to add a second firewire bus, it is necessary to install a separate PCI firewire card. In order to ensure that each device is running on its own dedicated bus, it is recommended that a separate firewire bus be added.
For Desktop Macs with PCI (G5) or PCIe (MacPro) slots, this can be achieved by the addition of a PCI or PCIe firewire card. We have tested PCI firewire cards for use with Apple Mac G5s. For Apple laptops with PCMCIA slots, it is possible to add a PCMCIA to firewire adapter. The new Mac Book Pro features an ExpressCard/34 slot, which is planned to replace the current CardBus PCMCIA standard. For more information about Apple Mac firewire ports and buses, you can consult the Apple website. Information about the firewire ports and firewire expansion capabilities of specific Mac models is shown in the table below.


Computer Built In Firewire Firewire expansion Recommended Firewire Cards
Apple Mac Book 1 x 400MB/s None N/A
Apple Mac Book Pro 1 x 400MB/s 1 ExpressCard/34 slot Texas Intruments & NEC & VIA chipsets
Apple Intel Core Duo iMac 2 x 400MB/s None N/A
Apple Intel Mac Mini 1 x 400MB/s None N/A
Apple Mac Pro 2 x 400MB/s,1 x 800MB/s 3-4 PCI Express (PCIe) slots Texas Intruments & NEC & VIA chipsets
Mac G4 Powerbook 1 x 400MB/s,1 x 800MB/s 1 CardBus PCMCIA slot Texas Intruments & NEC & VIA chipsets
Mac G5 iMac 2 x 400MB/s None N/A
Mac Mini PPC 1 x 400MB/s None N/A
Mac G5 Desktop 2 x 400MB/s, 1 x 800MB/s 3-4 PCI slots Texas Intruments & NEC & VIA chipsets
Mac G4 Desktop 2 x 400MB/s 3-4 PCI slots Texas Intruments & NEC & VIA chipsets


Information about Windows XP compatible firewire chipsets is presented in the table below.
Recommended Chipsets are:


Firewire Card Manufacturer Firewire Chipset OHCI Compliant 1394 Type
VIA VT6306 VIA Fire II Yes 1394a
Texas Instruments TSB43AB22 Yes 1394a
NEC uPD72874 Yes 1394a


Focusrite do not recommend using 1394b type firewire chipsets with Liquid Mix. However, if you must, it is recommended that you install a Microsoft firewire driver update for Windows XP SP2 available here:



An example of a typical 1394b type card is show in the table below. You can check these specifications on your own system by looking at the device details in the Windows XP Device Manager


Firewire Card Manufacturer Firewire Chipset OHCI Compliant 1394 Type
Texas Instruments TSB82AA2/TSB81BA3 Yes 1394b


Firewire Bus Resets

Firewire bus resets occur when a device is added/removed. Certain firewire devices can also request bus resets for one reason or another. When the firewire bus is resetting, all the devices must re-negotiate for firewire bus bandwidth, so it is possible that at this point if another device requests more or gets in first, a device may fail to allocate space at this time.
After a reset, one device is elected to manage the isochronous resource allocation. It can be a different device each time. If no device is chosen, isochronous data transfer will not work. If a device that is elected does not implement it properly, it could lead to excessive allocation of bandwidth which is not actually available.
Provided that all the devices stick to their allocations, the isochronous data is safe and bandwidth is guaranteed. If any device uses more than it allocates, the system may break down resulting in loss of data. This would probably result in audio crackles and possibly some odd behaviour of remote LCD display or other controls.


Firewire Concepts are discussed in more depth on Apple's website here.
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